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Re: Installation on old ubuntu version

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24unix wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:36
info@eurhosting.net wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:34
24unix wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:28

OK, then KH is no option. Full stop.

And, yes, most of my customers have little knowledge of technology, so I ask when they have silly wishes, most of the time the is a better solution.
If they doesn't want to pay the framework update I can not force them, not all customers accept a budget modification, unfortunately
Which framework update?

You did not say why the customer needs old Ubuntu.
Just that he wants to have it.

If you could give reasons one could argue about.

E.g. Hardware X is only certified with that specific Ubuntu. Then one could think about a solution.

Yii script version that mantain his website that is not even compatible with ubuntu 18
https://www.yiiframework.com/
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Re: Installation on old ubuntu version

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info@eurhosting.net wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:48
24unix wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:36
info@eurhosting.net wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:34

If they doesn't want to pay the framework update I can not force them, not all customers accept a budget modification, unfortunately
Which framework update?

You did not say why the customer needs old Ubuntu.
Just that he wants to have it.

If you could give reasons one could argue about.

E.g. Hardware X is only certified with that specific Ubuntu. Then one could think about a solution.

Yii script version that mantain his website that is not even compatible with ubuntu 18
https://www.yiiframework.com/
You can install PHP back to 5.6 under KH.
php.png
However: That is at least one argument.
But no reason not to use a more decent version of Ubutunu or even better Debian.

Edit:

https://github.com/yiisoft/yii2#:~:text ... 0PHP%205.4.
  • The minimum required PHP version of Yii is PHP 5.4.
  • It works best with PHP 8.
So, your customer doesn't need Ubuntu 16.
He had just something in his head leading him to this thought.

That's why I question my customers and argue with them.

Yii will perfectly run on KeyHelp.

Edit 2:

I read the thread a second time:
But ./install_keyhelp.sh give me
root@borgolab:~# ./install_keyhelp.sh
-bash: ./install_keyhelp.sh: Permission denied
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You are not aware how to execute an non executable shell script or how to make it executable and offer maintenance for other people?
Seriously?
Last edited by 24unix on Sun 26. Jun 2022, 20:05, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Installation on old ubuntu version

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info@eurhosting.net wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:36
Jolinar wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:28
info@eurhosting.net wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:18 I do not see the reason to question customer need, we discuss it already with him and he did not accept a new OS version, so the need is Ubuntu 16, full stop.
An outdated system is a security risk, full stop.
Happy to know that your customer pay without questioning, really :)
A hypothetical question:
If your customer wants ubuntu in version 10, will you also provide him ubuntu in version 10?
If no, why not?
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Re: Installation on old ubuntu version

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Jolinar wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 20:03
info@eurhosting.net wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:36
Jolinar wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:28
An outdated system is a security risk, full stop.
Happy to know that your customer pay without questioning, really :)
A hypothetical question:
If your customer wants ubuntu in version 10, will you also provide him ubuntu in version 10?
If no, why not?
Because customer pay and if he doesn't want to pay to update the framework I will give him ubuntu 10, even 6, if he doesn't want to pay is not my problem if he run into security risk.
Pay money and get donkey :)
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Re: Installation on old ubuntu version

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24unix wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:54
info@eurhosting.net wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:48
24unix wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 19:36

Which framework update?

You did not say why the customer needs old Ubuntu.
Just that he wants to have it.

If you could give reasons one could argue about.

E.g. Hardware X is only certified with that specific Ubuntu. Then one could think about a solution.

Yii script version that mantain his website that is not even compatible with ubuntu 18
https://www.yiiframework.com/
You can install PHP back to 5.6 under KH.
php.png

However: That is at least one argument.
But no reason not to use a more decent version of Ubutunu or even better Debian.

Edit:

https://github.com/yiisoft/yii2#:~:text ... 0PHP%205.4.
  • The minimum required PHP version of Yii is PHP 5.4.
  • It works best with PHP 8.
So, your customer doesn't need Ubuntu 16.
He had just something in his head leading him to this thought.

That's why I question my customers and argue with them.

Yii will perfectly run on KeyHelp.

Edit 2:

I read the thread a second time:
But ./install_keyhelp.sh give me
root@borgolab:~# ./install_keyhelp.sh
-bash: ./install_keyhelp.sh: Permission denied
Stop stop stop
If hosting is not your main focus, I can be of help to mantain your servers
You are not aware how to execute an non executable shell script or how to make it executable and offer maintenance for other people?
Seriously?

Sorry, my fault, issue is not on php version, is on DB
Basically the issue is this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/410 ... ault-value

But there is no way to get SUPER privilege even as root
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info@eurhosting.net wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 21:12 Because customer pay and if he doesn't want to pay to update the framework I will give him ubuntu 10, even 6, if he doesn't want to pay is not my problem if he run into security risk.
Pay money and get donkey :)
Sorry, but that IMHO sounds like a quite dubious business concept :?
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info@eurhosting.net wrote: Sun 26. Jun 2022, 21:16 Sorry, my fault, issue is not on php version, is on DB
Basically the issue is this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/410 ... ault-value

But there is no way to get SUPER privilege even as root
a) You nearly have no clue what you do.
b) I posted the solution one day ago:

viewtopic.php?p=36234#p36234
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info@eurhosting.net wrote: Mon 27. Jun 2022, 09:48 Solved
And how did you solve it?
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Re: Installation on old ubuntu version

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Oh, theoretically I still have the first KeyHelp version 3.0.0 for Ubuntu 12 if there is a need :D...

Alessandro, in case you stumble across some weird request of your customers for an old OS, just send me a private message or contact me via Keyweb Ticket. There are solutions to install outdated versions, but they would require some manual steps, i can walk you through.

Of course I will not encourage someone to do so. It is always preferable to install an up-to-date OS and instead update the application to be compatible with it.
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