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Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Sun 22. Mar 2020, 13:11
by DennisDee
Hi guys, I'm about to try Keyhelp but I do have questions. Well, for now only two, with possible one answer only :).

My provider offers me debian 8, so if I follow documentation on website, I can make upgrade up to 10? If not, can latest Keyhelp work on Debuan8?

Stay healthy :)
Dennis

Personal edit: thanks mod for moving to correct forum, I don't know how I missed this one.
[Mod-Edit]
Thread moved to the english section of the forum.

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Mon 23. Mar 2020, 08:43
by Alexander
Hello,

if you follow the guide from 8 -> 9

https://www.keyhelp.de/en/news/upgrade- ... -debian-9/

and this guide from 9 -> 10

https://www.keyhelp.de/en/news/upgrade- ... debian-10/

You should be able to upgrade to Debian 10.

(Remember to create a Backup in advance ;) )

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The latest KeyHelp Version is 20.0 which still runs fine on Debian 8, but 20.0 is also the last version for Debian 8. There will not be any further updates for Debian 8.
But a Debian 8 with KeyHelp 20.0 will always be upgrade-able using the guides above (and than will receive KeyHelp updates as usual).

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Mon 23. Mar 2020, 14:13
by DennisDee
Hi Aleksander and thanks for your reply.

Unfortunately im getting this error
~# wget https://install.keyhelp.de/get_keyhelp.php -O install_keyhelp.sh ; bash install_keyhelp.sh ;
converted 'https://install.keyhelp.de/get_keyhelp.php' (ANSI_X3.4-1968) -> 'https://install.keyhelp.de/get_keyhelp.php' (UTF-8)
--2020-03-23 13:05:19-- https://install.keyhelp.de/get_keyhelp.php
Resolving install.keyhelp.de (install.keyhelp.de)... 62.141.56.232, 2001:1b60:2:11:913:101:be57:cafe
Connecting to install.keyhelp.de (install.keyhelp.de)|62.141.56.232|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/x-sh]
Saving to: 'install_keyhelp.sh'

install_keyhelp.sh [ <=> ] 15.41K --.-KB/s in 0.01s

2020-03-23 13:05:19 (1.54 MB/s) - 'install_keyhelp.sh' saved [15783]

Preparing KeyHelp installation, this may take a few minutes...
ERROR: Unsupported OS
Checking the version
~# cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="8"
VERSION="8 (jessie)"
ID=debian
HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"
Any idea what could go wrong? All updates and upgrades are done.

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Mon 23. Mar 2020, 14:31
by Tobi
Don't use the install script.
Use the upgrade script instead.
Follow the link in Alex posting.

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Mon 23. Mar 2020, 15:02
by DennisDee
But to upgrade from 8 to 9 from link that Aleksander provided, I understand that I need keyhelp installed first? Which I dont have at the moment :).

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Mon 23. Mar 2020, 16:18
by Tobi
Okay.
I thought you already had installed KH.

Probably the installer doesn't support outdated OS.

And you should be aware that the underlying Kernel of your Host-System supports Debian > 8. Maybe that's why your provider doesn't support Debian > 8?

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Mon 23. Mar 2020, 16:29
by DennisDee
Well that's the case. Debian 8 is supported, but not higher and by words of Aleksander, Keyhelp 20.0 should work on Debian 8?

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Mon 23. Mar 2020, 17:31
by Alexander
For Debian 8, an upgrade from 19.3.1 (which was the Version prior to 20.0) to 20.0 works like a charm.
But new installations with Debian 8 are not supported any longer.

I also thought you have KeyHelp already installed.

You may want to change your provider?! :D

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Mon 23. Mar 2020, 17:33
by Tobi
My guess was right.
In the installer script you'll find this codeblock.

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if [ "$os" != 'Ubuntu_16.04' ] &&
           [ "$os" != 'Ubuntu_18.04' ] &&
           [ "$os" != 'Debian_9' ]     &&
           [ "$os" != 'Debian_10' ]; then

            die "Unsupported OS"
        fi
        
Maybe KeyHelp works still with Debian 8, the installer doesn't.

Alex was faster 😉

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Mon 23. Mar 2020, 17:36
by DennisDee
I do plan to change provider :D, but I'm committed til January 2021..till then is there any way to install v19.3.1?
Support from keyhelp and community on forum made me think to go with keyweb, as prices are very similar to my current provider (also German provider).

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Tue 24. Mar 2020, 05:21
by prune
Same price as KH so your vps is free?

Is this vps VZ or KVM?

Is there a flag for version like -v to specify which version to download and install?

wget https://install.keyhelp.de/get_keyhelp.php

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Tue 24. Mar 2020, 08:24
by Alexander
Is there a flag for version like -v to specify which version to download and install?
No, because there is no reason to Install an outdated version of KeyHelp and users should not be encouraged to use an outdated OS.
It is one of the principles of KeyHelp to take care of a secure system.

KeyHelps offers support beyond the EOL period of the operating systems, so there is no need to hurry, but also no need to install Debian 8 these days.

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Tue 24. Mar 2020, 14:44
by DennisDee
prune wrote: Tue 24. Mar 2020, 05:21 Same price as KH so your vps is free?

Is this vps VZ or KVM?
Same price as keyweb, not keyhelp. They are on virtuozzo, but unfortunately on v6 and not v7, that's why I can't officially update. Although I did test today and update with official debian source.list to Debian9, but keyhelp gives me lot of no connection pages and I need to refresh (F5) often

Re: Debian keyhelp upgrade

Posted: Fri 27. Mar 2020, 13:06
by Martin
Hello,

if you have a plain Debian 8 without KeyHelp, then just perform regular dist-upgrade (as described within Debian documentation) to Debian 9.

After that you could install KeyHelp and use our Script for upgrading Debian 9 to Debian 10. OR you can perform plain dist-upgrade BEFORE installing KeyHelp to Debian 10 and install KeyHelp when your system is running a plain Debian 10.