SOA-Serial ändert sich nicht

[Florian]

Hallo,

schau einfach ins syslog. Dort wird angezeigt wenn der Bind den reload macht:

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2026-10-20T18:05:02.481407+02:00 kmxxxxxx named[379]: zone domain.de/IN: loaded serial 2026102000
2026-10-20T18:05:02.481938+02:00 kmxxxxxx named[379]: zone domain.de/IN: sending notifies (serial 2026102000)

nach Änderung im DNS Editor:

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2026-10-20T18:09:02.378558+02:00 kmxxxxx named[379]: zone domain.de/IN: loaded serial 2026102001
2026-10-20T18:09:02.379135+02:00 kmxxxxx named[379]: zone domain.de/IN: sending notifies (serial 2026102001)

[Alexander]

Solange

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echo $?

direkt nach dem Reload eine 0 zurück gibt, ist alles okay.
Zusätzlich steht auch noch

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systemctl status bind9

zur Verfügung, wo die Reload zeit auch nachvollzogen werden kann.

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root@dev:~# systemctl reload bind9

root@dev:~# echo $?
0

root@dev:~# systemctl status bind9
● named.service - BIND Domain Name Server
     Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/named.service; enabled; preset: enabled)
     Active: active (running) since Fri 2026-10-16 03:05:41 CEST; 5 days ago
       Docs: man:named(8)
    Process: 3841911 ExecReload=/usr/sbin/rndc reload (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
   Main PID: 2341146 (named)
     Status: "running"
      Tasks: 14 (limit: 9431)
     Memory: 44.0M (peak: 46.9M swap: 18.5M swap peak: 18.6M)
        CPU: 45.030s
     CGroup: /system.slice/named.service
             └─2341146 /usr/sbin/named -f -u bind

Okt 21 09:28:55 dev named[2341146]: automatic empty zone: RESOLVER.ARPA
Okt 21 09:28:55 dev named[2341146]: configuring command channel from '/etc/bind/rndc.key'
Okt 21 09:28:55 dev named[2341146]: configuring command channel from '/etc/bind/rndc.key'
Okt 21 09:28:55 dev named[2341146]: reloading configuration succeeded
Okt 21 09:28:55 dev named[2341146]: reloading zones succeeded
Okt 21 09:28:55 dev rndc[3841911]: server reload successful
Okt 21 09:28:55 dev systemd[1]: Reloaded named.service - BIND Domain Name Server.
Okt 21 09:28:55 dev named[2341146]: all zones loaded
Okt 21 09:28:55 dev named[2341146]: running

[swoop]

Hallo,

danke für die vielen guten tipps, bin echt froh drum.
Also, ich hab jetzt mal im Syslog Ausschau gehalten:

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2026-10-21T11:45:01.526491+02:00 hostname CRON[3420352]: (root) CMD (nice -n 5 php /home/keyhelp/www/keyhelp/cronjob/mastercronjob.php)
2026-10-21T11:45:03.701889+02:00 hostname systemd[1]: Reloading named.service - BIND Domain Name Server...
2026-10-21T11:45:03.754732+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: received control channel command 'reload'
2026-10-21T11:45:03.754952+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: loading configuration from '/etc/bind/named.conf'
2026-10-21T11:45:03.754998+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: the working directory is now '/var/cache/bind'
2026-10-21T11:45:03.755853+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: looking for GeoIP2 databases in '/usr/share/GeoIP'
2026-10-21T11:45:03.755959+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: using default UDP/IPv4 port range: [32768, 60999]
2026-10-21T11:45:03.756054+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: using default UDP/IPv6 port range: [32768, 60999]
2026-10-21T11:45:03.756530+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: Disabling periodic interface re-scans timer
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758076+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: none:98: 'max-cache-size 90%' - setting to 7154MB (out of 7949MB)
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758403+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 10.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758473+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 16.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758559+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 17.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758640+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 18.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758681+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 19.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758721+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 20.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758775+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 21.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758818+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 22.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758857+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 23.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758896+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 24.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758939+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 25.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.758978+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 26.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759017+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 27.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759057+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 28.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759122+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 29.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759163+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 30.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759210+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 31.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759251+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 168.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759297+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 64.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759340+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 65.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759379+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 66.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759419+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 67.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759458+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 68.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759498+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 69.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759536+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 70.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759576+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 71.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759617+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 72.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759662+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 73.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759701+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 74.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759739+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 75.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759780+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 76.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759826+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 77.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759866+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 78.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759911+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 79.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759950+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 80.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.759990+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 81.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.760031+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 82.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.760075+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 83.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.760116+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 84.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.760155+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 85.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.760190+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 86.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.760233+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 87.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.760316+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 88.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.760364+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 89.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.760409+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 90.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761427+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 91.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761479+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 92.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761523+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 93.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761562+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 94.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761601+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 95.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761639+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 96.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761680+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 97.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761718+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 98.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761763+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 99.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761803+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 100.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761838+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 101.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761882+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 102.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761925+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 103.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.761962+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 104.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762012+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 105.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762051+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 106.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762471+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 107.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762531+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 108.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762577+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 109.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762620+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 110.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762662+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 111.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762709+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 112.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762750+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 113.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762788+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 114.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762829+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 115.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762896+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 116.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762939+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 117.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.762978+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 118.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763067+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 119.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763105+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 120.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763149+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 121.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763190+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 122.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763234+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 123.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763301+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 124.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763351+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 125.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763394+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 126.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763438+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 127.100.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763479+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 0.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763518+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 127.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763564+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 254.169.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763608+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 2.0.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763653+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 100.51.198.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763695+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 113.0.203.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763744+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 255.255.255.255.IN-ADDR.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763785+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763830+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763873+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: D.F.IP6.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763919+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 8.E.F.IP6.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.763964+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 9.E.F.IP6.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.764009+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: A.E.F.IP6.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.764052+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: B.E.F.IP6.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.764095+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: 8.B.D.0.1.0.0.2.IP6.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.764135+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: EMPTY.AS112.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.764178+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: HOME.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.764222+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: automatic empty zone: RESOLVER.ARPA
2026-10-21T11:45:03.764284+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: configuring command channel from '/etc/bind/rndc.key'
2026-10-21T11:45:03.766132+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: configuring command channel from '/etc/bind/rndc.key'
2026-10-21T11:45:03.766253+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: reloading configuration succeeded
2026-10-21T11:45:03.766317+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: reloading zones succeeded
2026-10-21T11:45:03.767333+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: all zones loaded
2026-10-21T11:45:03.767492+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: FIPS mode is disabled
2026-10-21T11:45:03.767607+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: running
2026-10-21T11:45:03.768595+02:00 hostname rndc[3420482]: server reload successful
2026-10-21T11:45:03.769654+02:00 hostname systemd[1]: Reloaded named.service - BIND Domain Name Server.
2026-10-21T11:45:03.776686+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: managed-keys-zone: Key 20326 for zone . is now trusted (acceptance timer complete)
2026-10-21T11:45:03.776819+02:00 hostname named[3394361]: managed-keys-zone: Key 38696 for zone . is now trusted (acceptance timer complete)

Es wird mal was neu geladen, aber so wie ich das sehe, nur nicht die forward-zonen.
Danach ist auch die SOA-Serial geändert.

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# systemctl reload bind9
#/etc/bind# echo $?
0
#/etc/bind# systemctl status bind9
● named.service - BIND Domain Name Server
     Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/named.service; enabled; preset: enabled)
     Active: active (running) since Wed 2026-10-21 11:09:42 CEST; 46min ago
 Invocation: 816461469e17407597dda99fff01b03a
       Docs: man:named(8)
    Process: 3428566 ExecReload=/usr/sbin/rndc reload (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
   Main PID: 3394361 (named)
     Status: "running"
      Tasks: 14 (limit: 9488)
     Memory: 69.5M (peak: 78.3M)
        CPU: 8.602s
     CGroup: /system.slice/named.service
             └─3394361 /usr/sbin/named -f -u bind

Okt 21 11:56:18 hostname.domain.tld named[3394361]: configuring command channel from '/etc/bind/rndc.key'
Okt 21 11:56:18 hostname.domain.tld named[3394361]: reloading configuration succeeded
Okt 21 11:56:18 hostname.domain.tld named[3394361]: reloading zones succeeded
Okt 21 11:56:18 hostname.domain.tld rndc[3428566]: server reload successful
Okt 21 11:56:18 hostname.domain.tld named[3394361]: all zones loaded
Okt 21 11:56:18 hostname.domain.tld named[3394361]: FIPS mode is disabled
Okt 21 11:56:18 hostname.domain.tld systemd[1]: Reloaded named.service - BIND Domain Name Server.
Okt 21 11:56:18 hostname.domain.tld named[3394361]: running
Okt 21 11:56:18 hostname.domain.tld named[3394361]: managed-keys-zone: Key 20326 for zone . is now trusted (acceptance timer complete)
Okt 21 11:56:18 hostname.domain.tld named[3394361]: managed-keys-zone: Key 38696 for zone . is now trusted (acceptance timer complete)

[swoop]

Hallo,

da ich den vorigen Beitrag nicht bearbeiten konnte...

Dass da zwar die reverse Einträge neu geladen wurden ist zwar gut, aber es werden eben nicht die Domänen neu geladen, daher bringt das nicht viel. Wie bereits gesagt ist danach die SOA-Serial neu, aber eben nur lokal am Server.
Gibt's da noch etwas, das man tun könnte?

SG
Lukas